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« Thread started on: Dec 19th, 2010, 11:38pm »

My singer friend from Texas and I had a discussion a while back of certain songs by Marvin's fellow Motowners that would have been great if our hero had a crack at them. Chances are, he may have, but the tunes are serving life imprisonment in the vaults. Here are a few so far:"I'll Pay Double"--originally recorded by the Four Tops in 1968. The Miracles also did a version that's still in the vaults."Lonely, Lonely Man Am I"--Recorded by the Temptations (first) and Jimmy Ruffin."How Can I Say I'm Sorry"--This is my all-time favorite Jimmy Ruffin song! Marvin would have sounded great with it, had he got the chance. Jimmy also recorded "More Than A Heart Can Stand" after Marvin, but the music for Jimmy's version is AWESOME! Marvin should have gotten it."All I Need", You're Not An Ordinary Girl", "(I Know) I'm Losing You", "I Couldn't Think Of A Thing At All"--great Temptations songs up Marvin's alley!Feel free to weigh in, guys; what other Motown favorites you think our hero could have sung?
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 20th, 2010, 2:07pm »

"dancing in the street"

Apparently after Marvin wrote it and taught Martha Reeves how to do the track he sang it to her. It would be a hoot if he actually went in studio and did it with the Vandellas!
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 20th, 2010, 3:49pm »

As a matter of fact, Marvin actually sang backup with the Vandellas on that song! If you listen to the song on the "Dancing In The Street" Motown Karaoke CD (on the first part, where the vocal is separate from the music) Marvin can be heard as plain as day! Even though he's singing in a higher register, to "blend in" with Rosalind & Annette, you can tell he's there, particularly on the lyric where Martha sings, "There'll be singing, swaying,/And records playing".
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 21st, 2010, 9:16pm »

I was listening to my favorite Four Tops album, "Yesterday's Dreams" on the way to work today. Here are several songs from the album that would have been great for Marvin: "The Sweetheart Tree", "I'm In A Different World" (great duet with Tammi!), "We've Got A Strong Love On Our Side" (another possible Tammi duet), and "Remember When".A Martha & the Vandellas song good for a Tammi duet: "I'll Follow You".Smokey & the Miracles: "Choosey Beggar", "More Love", "My Girl Has Gone", "All That's Good". Also, Marvin should have used Smokey's arrangement for "Abraham, Martin, & John".
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 24th, 2010, 12:05am »

He could've definitely sung some of the Four Tops songs like "Shake Me, Wake Me (When It's Over)" and "I'm in a Different World". He could've also easily done "My Whole World Ended" if it wasn't intended for David.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 25th, 2010, 06:28am »

"Shake Me, Wake Me..."--I have to agree with you on that, Timmy! Add to that the possibility of Marvin singing it to the same track that Chuck Jackson used for his version of the song--pure listening bliss! I've got two more Tops' songs with Marvin potential--"You Keep Running Away" & "The Key". My all-time favorite Marvelettes song is "You're The One". This was a different tune written by Smokey, not the song Marvin would do with himself & the Originals. If Marvin sang a macho male version of that girly declaration, it would be on my CD player's repeat mode forever! An R. Dean Taylor song from 1967--"Let's Go Somewhere"--has subject matter perfect for the "What's Going On" album. I would have enjoyed that album a little more if Marvin included a cover version of that whimsical track--"serious" works like "W.G.O." should be equally balanced with at least a dry sense of humor.
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 17th, 2011, 3:51pm »

on Dec 24th, 2010, 12:05am, timmy84 wrote:
He could've definitely sung some of the Four Tops songs like "Shake Me, Wake Me (When It's Over)" and "I'm in a Different World". He could've also easily done "My Whole World Ended" if it wasn't intended for David.


I must disagree. The instrumentation on "Shake Me" is too strong for Marvin's vocal to compete with. He would have been drowned out. I love Marvin's cool, his artistry, his writing, and his innovative way of using overdubs. Phil Spector used overdubs to build volume in his "Wall of Sound", but Marvin used his like an artist uses tone and color. He combines a variety of melodies, and makes his voice the central instrument. This is event throught the "I Want You" album. That said as far as male vocalists go, Levi Stubbs, can't be touched. Every Four Tops song was right for his voice. Marvin is sensual sounding. Levi had that lovelorn, desparation going on in his voice, almot operatic.
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 28th, 2011, 04:15am »

on Mar 17th, 2011, 3:51pm, soul74 wrote:
I must disagree. The instrumentation on "Shake Me" is too strong for Marvin's vocal to compete with. He would have been drowned out. I love Marvin's cool, his artistry, his writing, and his innovative way of using overdubs. Phil Spector used overdubs to build volume in his "Wall of Sound", but Marvin used his like an artist uses tone and color. He combines a variety of melodies, and makes his voice the central instrument. This is event throught the "I Want You" album. That said as far as male vocalists go, Levi Stubbs, can't be touched. Every Four Tops song was right for his voice. Marvin is sensual sounding. Levi had that lovelorn, desparation going on in his voice, almot operatic.


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« Reply #8 on: Mar 28th, 2011, 9:15pm »

Oh, boy. Soul74, I hope you know that during Motown's 60's heyday, the artists were always recording each other's hit songs. That's the focus of this topic. The late Motown songwriter Ivy Jo Hunter once said, "Marvin could take any song & sing it as though it was custom written for him." I agree with him on that! If you have some spare time, take a listen to the song samples of "Motown Sings Motown Treasures". Listen especially to Chuck Jackson's version of "Shake Me, Wake Me". The melody was an awesome moderate mid-tempo & if it was good for Chuck, it would be good for Marvin's voice, too!
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 6th, 2011, 12:32pm »

on Mar 28th, 2011, 9:15pm, andreaarkmgfan wrote:
Oh, boy. Soul74, I hope you know that during Motown's 60's heyday, the artists were always recording each other's hit songs. That's the focus of this topic. The late Motown songwriter Ivy Jo Hunter once said, "Marvin could take any song & sing it as though it was custom written for him." I agree with him on that! If you have some spare time, take a listen to the song samples of "Motown Sings Motown Treasures". Listen especially to Chuck Jackson's version of "Shake Me, Wake Me". The melody was an awesome moderate mid-tempo & if it was good for Chuck, it would be good for Marvin's voice, too!


Or in Smokey's words, he "Marvinized" it.
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 17th, 2012, 11:03am »

I'm gonna go way outside the box and fantasize here:

1. "My Way"
2. "Hello"
3. "Don't Worry Be Happy"

off the top o' my head.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 8th, 2012, 11:58pm »

I've decided to revisit this thread, due to some recent investments I made in recordings from our hero's Motown cohorts. "Tea House In Chinatown", "Without The One You Love", "Where Did You Go", "Love Feels Like Fire". These songs from the Four Tops' first two albums would be great for Marvin."Dancing's Alright", "You Must Be Love", "After You Put Back The Pieces". All are from Smokey & The Miracles' "Make It Happen"/"Tears Of A Clown" album. Marvin should have had a crack at these."Candy To Me". This is one of my favorite Eddie Holland songs, & one of the last he recorded before going into songwriting full-time. It has a great "Pride & Joy"-styled groove perfect for Marvin."Little Miss Sweetness". The Isley Bros. & the Tempts both recorded this song, but I like the track the latter group used. Marvin could have sung this for Anna."It's Going All The Way (To True, True Love) This Diana & The Supremes song was first released in 1987 on a CD called "Never Before Released Masters".
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 9th, 2012, 12:31am »

(continued) This song was also recorded on the same day that the girls cut "In And Out Of Love". The instrumentation in "It's Going..." is beautiful, & would make a perfect Marvin & Tammi duet. Another great song for the dynamic duo--"The Love I Saw In You (Was Just A Mirage)". Every time I hear Smokey's original version, I always hear Marvin singing the opening stanza, "There you were/Beautiful/The promise of love was written on your face". I can hear Marvin & Tammi on the first chorus, "Just a minute ago, your love was here/All of a sudden, it seemed to disappear/ Sweetness was only heartache's camouflage/The love I saw in you was just a mirage.""I'll Be Standing By", "Take Me In Your Arms and Love Me". Both are from Gladys & The Pips' first album, "Everybody Needs Love". Great duet songs for Marvin and Tammi. I'll be adding more--stay tuned!
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 3rd, 2012, 9:46pm »

Decided to bump this, because today, I heard (and downloaded) Diana & The Supremes' "Forever Came Today". Until today, I had NEVER heard this song! It was a small hit for Diana & her crew in about 1968. Why, oh why, didn't Marvin & Tammi have a shot at this song?! It has the awesomest refrain: "At last, at last/my forever came today. When you walked into my life/and made my lonely life a paradise/It came today, forever came today". I can just hear Marvin & Tammi singing this, and alternating on the verses.
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 4th, 2012, 12:13pm »

^ Maybe it was because of the songwriting team. Motown, as far as I know, never assigned an HDH song to M&T. It was strictly A&S with some help from Bristol and Fuqua.
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