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« Thread started on: Aug 11th, 2008, 04:55am »

Okay we all heard the stories about these two together, the fights, the break-ups, and the cheating but there are times that I believe that Marvin's love for Anna was far more than just being the Boss's Sister. Marvin seemed to have a deeper connection with Anna than any other He had been with. I also found it strage that Marvin was thinking/planning to get back with Anna in 1983(according to berry gordy) even after she took most of his money and helped put him in debt w/ the IRS. My question is do you think the relationship they had was healthy?, did Marvin and Anna need to get back together, for Marvin's sake?
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 11th, 2008, 08:48am »

Whatever hold Anna had on Marvin from the time he met her at 19, 20, he couldn't seem to let go. He was a teenager when he met the very adult Anna and it looked like Anna paved the way for his further confusion. See, Marvin always wanted someone to be like his mother, he also, because she was Berry Gordy's sister, wanted to be connected so he wouldn't get overlooked by Motown, but I think Anna also had a personal connection with Marvin that he couldn't find with Janis. He was never deeply in love with Janis the way he was with Anna.

Listen to the entire "Here, My Dear" album. Yes, he's bitter and he points fingers at Anna at certain times but you can tell he still LOVED her deeply. "Anna's Song" is the best example of that. You could feel his cries when he screams Anna's name. He didn't feel that way with Janis, there was an uncertainty creeping in when he sung "Falling in Love Again" like he knew for certain this wasn't going to work despite his early conviction in "When Did You Stop..." when he was like "if I love again, I'm gonna try a new way this time" but he could always hear Anna's threat: "you can leave me but that young girl is gonna cost you."

I think in truth, Marvin didn't wanna divorce Anna because Anna inspired him. After the divorce, he just couldn't seem to let go of her.

Here's a funny thing I viewed on Marvin's "E! True Hollywood Story", during the divorce trial, Curtis Shaw, Marvin's attorney at the time, went to visit Marvin who had apparently went to Anna's house. When Curtis came up, he saw an unbelievable sight: Marvin embracing Anna like they were still happily married and Anna calling for Curtis to come in so she can cook him and Marvin some food.

It struck Curtis as "very strange". But see Marvin and Anna were still seeing each other by the time Marvin died in 1984.

That's as best as I could explain it. I'd fall in love with Anna too the way she looked back then. kiss She's still beautiful today. smiley
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 12th, 2008, 10:34pm »

Timmy basically gave an opinion that is the same as mine. I do think that his love for Anna was strong and deep. Marvin created a lot of his problems with women but it seemed to me that with Anna things didn't go spiraling so far out of control that he would go into hotel rooms looking for her like he did with Jan.

Jan really opened up the doors of sexuality and taboos for Marvin but her youth gave them no chance whereas Anna's age and experience could at least calm Marvin down. During his last days he had totally lost it and was ready to give up but he still loved Anna. I think that if things hadn't gone so sour for Marvin and his father that he would've eventually gone back to Anna.

If only Frankie had gotten Marvin to a detox center sooner who knows what would've happened. I truly think he would've gone back to Anna, to something that was a known quantity for him and I also think he would've found his way back to Motown.
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 12:44pm »

Marvin was definitely on the verge of getting back with his ex-wife Anna. so I see your question Soulmusic. Was it going to be a healthy relationship. Did Marvin and Anna learn their lesson?, or were they about to enter the same problems again. If they would've got back together, I think Marvin would have been deeper into insanity. They both loved each other very deeply, anyone can see that, but Marvin and Anna's relationship was at times very dangerous. Marvin being the womanizer, exploring other countries as well as other women, and Anna as well, was known to cheat.
you asked whether or not this was healthy for Marvin, my answer simply is NO.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 14th, 2008, 3:26pm »

Yeah it would've been too much. Marvin and Anna were two very volatile characters. I'm sure Anna had her own set of demons that helped to tear their marriage up besides infidelity. I mean we don't know much about the Gordys' private life since Berry has helped to keep that as private as possible.
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 21st, 2009, 01:41am »

I believe that his relationship with Anna over time(after the divorce) became one of friendship, one of respect. But I don't believe he would have ever returned to her in a serious relationship. Not after what they both put the other through in their marriage. But in truth he benefitted from her early guidance of his career, I'm certain he always appreciated that. Even within the volatility of their former marriage Anna always meant well of his career. And of course he also benefitted from being married to the boss' sister too.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 20th, 2010, 1:50pm »

I find it interesting that when Marvin won the Grammys in 1983 he decided to invite Anna along with Janis' children, which I found odd. I guess Anna to Marvin represented someone that was loved and admired. Marvin and Anna couldn't let go of each other. I definitely think Anna went into a deep seclusion and possible depression after hearing of Marvin's death. It seemed Anna was never the same after Marvin died.

Hearing about how their adopted son tortured her in later years when she was unable to really defend herself and having her niece Denise Gordy look after her, something had to had happen with Anna between 1984 and 2006 for her to slowly give out. I don't wanna think Anna is slowly dying but I think there was this deep sadness in her smile. She is still grieving over Marvin's death.

Anyway, to get on an Anna related topic, anyone know her actual BIRTH DATE?! laugh

We're hearing different stories now lol the "American Masters" documentary listed Anna's age as 36 (meaning if they had met in 1960, she would've been born in 1924 and not 1922). But the recent Anna article, from 2006, listed her as being 84.

So I'm thinking out loud, was she born in January of 1922 in Georgia? I'm surprised with all the information about Janis that besides from confirmation she was a musical composer and songwriter in Motown, there's not much other information. Sadly we may not get more info on Anna until she finally leaves this world.

I like a timeline of Anna's birth date and early years. I do believe she was born in January in 1922 right before the Gordys moved from Georgia to Detroit. I mean she was the third eldest after Esther and Fuller so I'm thinking she was the last Gordy to be born in Georgia before the move.

I would like more information on Anna... this is an important woman in the history of Marvin's life and I would want to know more about her.
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 27th, 2010, 12:16pm »

Just bumping this up because I just think we haven't really discussed this farther enough. I wonder if the woman's okay. Been a while since we've heard from her.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 7th, 2010, 2:46pm »

Marvin and Anna were very much in love, but the two had strong personalities. Anna had been raised to be a strong women, as Marvin's mother was. So, he wanted Anna; he loved her; he lived her; they created great songs together. I do not believe they would have reunited, but they would have forever been in love. Love isn't lust; people in love do crazy things. Crazy things, they both did!!! I love reading about Marvin and Anna and their great love. I have read several books about my most famous Love Couple!!!
Here My Dear says it all!
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 7th, 2010, 2:51pm »

Marvin and Anna were very much in love, but the two had strong personalities. Anna had been raised to be a strong woman, as Marvin's mother was and so was her mother. So, he wanted Anna; he loved her; he lived her; they created great songs together. I do not believe they would have reunited, but they would have forever been in love. Love isn't lust; people in love do crazy things. Crazy things, they both did!!! I love reading about Marvin and Anna and their great love. I have read several books about my most famous Love Couple!!!
Here My Dear says it all!

we cannot overlook his attraction to Janis- she was young and hot! I mean seriously what man does not want a young hot thing every once in a while, but his thoughts became confused when he realized he could not control Anna and could somewhat control young Janis for a short time. Love is Love and Lust is Lust! We can see what was what in the way in which Marvin and Anna's relationship, though violent sometimes, endured all the bad times.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 12th, 2010, 10:25pm »

Great insight.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 6th, 2012, 02:46am »

I keep getting a sinking feeling that we may hear about Anna in the obituaries. I have to commend Denise Gordy for taking care of her aunt during this obvious troubling time. I just hope that whatever happens that Anna has made her peace with God. I didn't expect Esther to go when she did. Just got me more concerned about Anna. I'm thinking - and I may be right here - that Anna is the last surviving daughter of Berry Gordy II and Bertha. embarassed
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