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xx Marvin the Outsider at Motown
« Thread started on: Aug 22nd, 2010, 5:07pm »

A part of me thinks because of Marvin's rebellious yet shy nature that he avoided being part of crowds. I know he was probably close to SOME of his label mates but I think a part of him kept to himself while the rest of Motown basically carried on things like an ongoing party. I've seen in some footage that Marvin was always distant from the other Motown label mates and even from his own wife's family. I wonder if he even felt loved within Berry's family. I know he had friendships with Gwen and Louyce and Berry's father at one time saved him from a suicide attempt but I often wonder if Marvin really felt like he was in the wrong place at the right time. As he once said, "Detroit was heaven and hell", or something to that effect.
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 22nd, 2010, 6:49pm »

I have always felt that way about Marvin during his early days at Motown. Even the motown ladies couldn't make him feel comfortable enough. I recall Mary Wilson (I think it was her) said something about Marvin didn't talk much to anybody besides Harvey. Everybody knew him as Harvey's quiet friend. I think that he didnt feel comfortable enough until he established his friendship with Berry. He was very fond of Berry Gordy and Berry's father. I think Marvin felt that they had a relationship that he wished he could've had with his own father. When it came to Anna, I think she just grew on him, being that Harvey did plan that relationship Lol. Over time, I think he did open up more. He also had a great relationship with Smokey and Tammi. As far as that, I think he associated with many, but no one else ever came as close to him. Ya know I feel this way about many other artists on Motown, especially people like Eddie Kendricks, Paul Williams, Flo, and even Diana Ross. As big of a family they were, They also had many private distant artists.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 23rd, 2010, 12:24am »

on Aug 22nd, 2010, 6:49pm, soulmusic247 wrote:
I have always felt that way about Marvin during his early days at Motown. Even the motown ladies couldn't make him feel comfortable enough. I recall Mary Wilson (I think it was her) said something about Marvin didn't talk much to anybody besides Harvey. Everybody knew him as Harvey's quiet friend. I think that he didnt feel comfortable enough until he established his friendship with Berry. He was very fond of Berry Gordy and Berry's father. I think Marvin felt that they had a relationship that he wished he could've had with his own father. When it came to Anna, I think she just grew on him, being that Harvey did plan that relationship Lol. Over time, I think he did open up more. He also had a great relationship with Smokey and Tammi. As far as that, I think he associated with many, but no one else ever came as close to him. Ya know I feel this way about many other artists on Motown, especially people like Eddie Kendricks, Paul Williams, Flo, and even Diana Ross. As big of a family they were, They also had many private distant artists.


Yeah, I definitely think Diana was distant too. She was really shy in those days. And Eddie & Paul were in their own planet. I think they didn't trust Berry to some degree that the others did.
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