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« Thread started on: Jun 14th, 2012, 8:34pm »

I'm quite surprised that no one has mentioned our hero's work for the small & silver screens! Despite the negativity surrounding "The Ballad Of Andy Crocker" & "Chrome And Hot Leather", I really liked those films! Only silly David Ritz & Ben Edmonds had caustic words about the movies, particularly "Chrome", which both jerks described as a "forgettable biker film". I have both movies on VHS video, later recorded to DVD. When I first got "Ballad", I had a flashback to first seeing the movie on TV: it was shown on a Sunday afternoon when I was six, & I vividly remember the final scene before the first commercial break, when Andy (played by Lee Majors) is so exhausted after driving home, he falls asleep with the family dog on the kitchen floor! Even though Marvin was only seen in the beginning & end of the film, I think he did a good job. I just wish they used a more attractive-looking lady to play Mia, our hero's character's wife. And as for "Chrome", my folks first saw it at the drive-in.
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 14th, 2012, 9:03pm »

(continued) I got the film on VHS in the "bargain bin" at Wal-Mart about 15 yrs. ago. It was awesome to see Marvin wear biker grunge wear, & use Green Beret martial arts on the bad guys! Also, this movie was the last time, until 1975, that our hero was seen clean-shaven. Here's a few of my favorite lines from Marvin's character: "Well, I know it's the same old story after each training cycle. But I sure wish we'd keep them a little longer." "Well, holy mackerel, boy--you done lost again! The only way we gonna get rich is if we own the casino." I just want to know if any of you guys have seen any of the movies--"Ballad" is available on You Tube in 6 parts, some people I know have bought it for a dollar on DVD (the film is in public domain). I'm not sure if "Chrome" is on DVD, even though the rights to all American International Pictures films are with MGM now--but selected scenes from it are also on You Tube.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 05:43am »

on Jun 14th, 2012, 8:34pm, andreaarkmgfan wrote:
I'm quite surprised that no one has mentioned our hero's work for the small & silver screens! Despite the negativity surrounding "The Ballad Of Andy Crocker" & "Chrome And Hot Leather", I really liked those films! Only silly David Ritz & Ben Edmonds had caustic words about the movies, particularly "Chrome", which both jerks described as a "forgettable biker film". I have both movies on VHS video, later recorded to DVD. When I first got "Ballad", I had a flashback to first seeing the movie on TV: it was shown on a Sunday afternoon when I was six, & I vividly remember the final scene before the first commercial break, when Andy (played by Lee Majors) is so exhausted after driving home, he falls asleep with the family dog on the kitchen floor! Even though Marvin was only seen in the beginning & end of the film, I think he did a good job. I just wish they used a more attractive-looking lady to play Mia, our hero's character's wife. And as for "Chrome", my folks first saw it at the drive-in.


Marvin Movie roles were discussed once in this thread below, I think some footage is also posted here.

http://marvingaye.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=videos&action=display&num=1216535206

The funniest part was in ballad of Andy Crocker towards the end, you can see Marvin getting nervous, and can't get his jacket zipper up. I tried looking all over in stores, particularly Wal-Mart's "sucks too much to be put on the shelves" movie bins. Lol, I wonder if they are out on DVD now?
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 10:31am »

I wonder how Marvin's movie career would've been if he wasn't so camera shy. cool
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 6:25pm »

Oh, no--I honestly didn't know that this subject had been discussed before! I'm so sorry, Soulmusic! Also, Amazon has the DVD copy of "The Ballad Of Andy Crocker". I very much doubt you will be able to find either movie at regular retail, unless, as I said previously, you get lucky & find "Ballad" in the dollar stores. I read years ago in the book "The Motown Story" that Marvin was to star in a film called "Skeeter Magee", which was set in the 50's, & about the friendship between a white teenage boy & a black factory worker. Of course, the story never went before the cameras, however, some people think "The Legend Of Bagger Vance" may be a reworking of "Magee's" basic storyline. Marvin would have been an excellent actor had his impending divorce from Anna threw a monkey wrench into his acting prospect machine.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 7:36pm »

Interesting about that Skeeter MaGee flick, I think Marvin would've been very good in that kind of role. Marvin was also in consideration for the Richard Pryor role in "Lady Sings the Blues" as well.

I've only seen bits and pieces of those two movies discussed above and thought Marvin had the charisma but he was really nervous about it all. I think I also read that there was talk of developing WHAT'S GOING ON into a feature length film with the songs being the loose framework for a story.

Now THAT would've been interesting!
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 10:47pm »

on Jun 15th, 2012, 6:25pm, andreaarkmgfan wrote:
Oh, no--I honestly didn't know that this subject had been discussed before! I'm so sorry, Soulmusic! Also, Amazon has the DVD copy of "The Ballad Of Andy Crocker". I very much doubt you will be able to find either movie at regular retail, unless, as I said previously, you get lucky & find "Ballad" in the dollar stores. I read years ago in the book "The Motown Story" that Marvin was to star in a film called "Skeeter Magee", which was set in the 50's, & about the friendship between a white teenage boy & a black factory worker. Of course, the story never went before the cameras, however, some people think "The Legend Of Bagger Vance" may be a reworking of "Magee's" basic storyline. Marvin would have been an excellent actor had his impending divorce from Anna threw a monkey wrench into his acting prospect machine.


No problem Andreaarkmgfan, I'm glad u resurfaced his movie roles. Also it's great to feel that I'm not the only one scrounging around in dollar stores bins searching for chrome & hot leather. They always have weird old movies there. Lol smiley grin
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 15th, 2012, 10:50pm »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Marvin also want to play the lead in Trouble Man?
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 16th, 2012, 10:15pm »

on Jun 15th, 2012, 10:50pm, soulmusic247 wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Marvin also want to play the lead in Trouble Man?


He did but apparently had cold feet and they hired someone else... I don't even think Isaac Hayes was acting in his own films when Marvin allegedly brought this up.

I did read he was originally picked in Richard Pryor's role but his schedule got in the way so Richard was picked.
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 3:34pm »

I don't believe it! Marvin considered as "Piano Man"?! Well, if our hero did go on for that role, there would be no beard for him! That's why Richard had to be clean-shaven for the part. Also, I wouldn't like to see our hero being punched and pummeled to a bloody pulp by drug dealers--it truly made me sick when I saw that happening to Richard. By the way, one of the drug dealers was played by Berry's kid bro, Robert--he's the one with the surfer dude/frat boy voice. Levi Stubbs, the Four Tops' leader, was originally considered for the part of Louis McKay, but he refused to leave the group to work on the film, so Billy Dee got the nod. And I'm glad that Robert Hooks got the part of "T"--it would have scary seeing our hero starting a race war in L.A.! When I took a creative writing class in college, I did write a synopsis of a television series version of "What's Going On"--it would be a reality/human interest series where average citizens who represent the songs are interviewed & followed.
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 6:16pm »

Drat! I type too fast! Should have said, "would have been scary". In "Ballad", it was pretty weird to have Marvin play a soldier in Vietnam, while his own bro, Frankie, was fighting the war in real life! The very end of the movie will surprise you guys! You'll have to see it to find out, but here's a clue: it involves Andy only, not our hero's character. It has been stated that "Ballad" was a pilot for a proposed series, but with such a shocking conclusion, I wonder what the series would have been like?
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« Reply #11 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 10:22pm »

Good points Andrea. Now that you mentioned it I couldn't see Marvin doing Piano Man. smiley
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