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« Thread started on: Aug 16th, 2013, 12:44pm »

Robin Thicke, Pharrell, & T.I. Suing Marvin Gaye’s Family & Bridgeport Music Over “Blurred Lines”

by Yohance Kyles (@HUEYmixwitRILEY) August 16th, 2013 @ 6:55am

(AllHipHop News) Robin Thicke, Pharrell Williams, and Clifford “T.I.” Harris have filed a lawsuit against the family of the late soul singer Marvin Gaye and Bridgeport Music over their huge hit “Blurred Lines” according to The Hollywood Reporter. The suit is a preemptive strike against Gaye’s family and the owner some of the music of the band Funkadelic.

The Gaye family and Bridgeport were said to be considering suing Thicke, Williams, and T.I., because of what them see as similarities between “Blurred Lines’” and Gaye’s “Got to Give It Up” and Funkadelic’s ”Sexy Ways.”

The suit states:

Plaintiffs, who have the utmost respect for and admiration of Marvin Gaye, Funkadelic and their musical legacies, reluctantly file this action in the face of multiple adverse claims from alleged successors in interest to those artists. Defendants continue to insist that plaintiffs’ massively successful composition, “Blurred Lines,” copies ‘their’ compositions… But there are no similarities between plaintiffs’ composition and those the claimants allege they own, other than commonplace musical elements. Plaintiffs created a hit and did it without copying anyone else’s composition.

The lawsuit also accuses the Gaye family of “claiming ownership of an entire genre, as opposed to a specific work” and the intent of “Blurred Lines” was to “evoke an era” not to infringe on the copyright of any other work. Frankie Christian Gaye, Marvin Gaye III, and Nona Marvisa Gaye were all named as defendants in the case.

Bridgeport Music was named as company. Bridgeport has been involved in several high-profile copyright cases. One of the most significant being 2005′s Bridgeport Music, Inc. v. Dimension Films which helped set the precedent that sampling any part of someone’s work no matter the length of the sample is copyright infringement.

The case stemmed from N.W.A. sampling a two second guitar riff from Funkadelic’s “Get Off Your Ass and Jam” for the song “100 Miles and Runnin’.” A 2006 article on slate.com called Bridgeport Music a “sample troll.”

The current “Blurred Lines” case does not involve sampling concerns. The case was filed in U.S. District Court in California.

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« Reply #1 on: Aug 16th, 2013, 9:41pm »

Yeah....To say they didn't use the basis of "GTGIO" for "Blurred Lines" would be massive denial of epic proportions. They should just admit the truth and save face because even a hearing impaired person can hear the similarities.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 16th, 2013, 10:22pm »

on Aug 16th, 2013, 9:41pm, MPGfan wrote:
Yeah....To say they didn't use the basis of "GTGIO" for "Blurred Lines" would be massive denial of epic proportions. They should just admit the truth and save face because even a hearing impaired person can hear the similarities.


Robin said he and Pharell were going for a "feel"... LOL everything about that song was GTGIU redux even that "hoo" holler (which Marvin actually was doing before MJ ever did it and there were "hoo" hollers in GTGIU lmao). That's just not right. It's ironic a doppleganger is suing the family of the original from trying to stop them from suing. MG III just said, "pay up, guys, that's all". So Marvin's kids are ready lol
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 17th, 2013, 12:34pm »

The sad thing is two of the guys in that collaboration are black guys and at least one of them is in his 40s. You'd think they'd at least recognize what they're doing and have the decency to give credit where it's due.

The three of them doing a preemptive lawsuit is just wrong and shows that they know they're guilty. They just don't want to pay up because the song's a huge megahit.

Sorry Robin Thicke, I know you respect Marvin but you showed a TON of disrespect with this dick move.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 17th, 2013, 4:07pm »

on Aug 17th, 2013, 12:34pm, MPGfan wrote:
The sad thing is two of the guys in that collaboration are black guys and at least one of them is in his 40s. You'd think they'd at least recognize what they're doing and have the decency to give credit where it's due.

The three of them doing a preemptive lawsuit is just wrong and shows that they know they're guilty. They just don't want to pay up because the song's a huge megahit.

Sorry Robin Thicke, I know you respect Marvin but you showed a TON of disrespect with this dick move.


For real. If they were so confident the song didn't copy "Got to Give It Up", they wouldn't be the ones suing to prevent a suit in the first place...
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 19th, 2013, 12:04am »

I am SO disgusted by thick. MARVIN GAYE is a MASTER! When that guy started his song I thought he was covering Marvin's song "GOT TO GIVE IT UP"!!! Marvin Gaye would have blow him out of the water live. It is a JOKE. I feel like thick's record company ripped Marvin off and changed enough bars to make it legal. I hope thick's record company does NOT win. He is backed by a powerful company! MARVIN IS KING! HIS MUSIC LIVES ON! His family has got to WIN for all the other musicians out there. If thick wins it will be an ATROCITY!
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 21st, 2013, 5:53pm »

Forbes did an excellent legal breakdown of the lawsuit and copyright infringement based on the case http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2013/08/20/the-blurred-lines-of-copyright-law-robin-thicke-v-marvin-gayes-estate/

The article is too long/dense to repost in toto but I urge you all to read it if you're interested in the particulars of this.
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 22nd, 2013, 10:44am »

on Aug 21st, 2013, 5:53pm, MPGfan wrote:
Forbes did an excellent legal breakdown of the lawsuit and copyright infringement based on the case http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2013/08/20/the-blurred-lines-of-copyright-law-robin-thicke-v-marvin-gayes-estate/

The article is too long/dense to repost in toto but I urge you all to read it if you're interested in the particulars of this.


I read that. Thanks.

MG III told TMZ how he felt about the song and there's a good possibility he'll sue Thicke right back (though MG III didn't outright say it, he just let it be a hint lol).
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 23rd, 2013, 11:04am »

So Robin was trying to bribe them to shut up?

Marvin Gaye's Family Rejected Robin Thicke's Six-Figure Offer

By Alex Pham | August 23, 2013 10:30 AM EDT

Billboard has learned that Robin Thicke’s team offered a six-figure sum to members of Marvin Gaye family in order to preempt a copyright infringement showdown, but the family turned it down.

According to sources knowledgeable with the lawsuit, the settlement offer came after Frankie Christian Gaye, Marvin Gaye III and Nona Marvisa Gaye accused Thicke's "Blurred Lines" hit single of plagiarizing "Got To Give it Up," written and composed by Marvin Gaye, who died in 1984.

Subsequently, Thicke, along with "Blurred Lines" co-writers Pharrell Williams and Clifford Harris, Jr., filed a lawsuit on Aug. 15 in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles requesting a ruling that "Blurred Lines" does not infringe on "Got To Give It Up." It also requested a similar judgement with regard to another accusation, by Bridgeport Music Inc., that "Blurred Lines" infringed on George Clinton's "Sexy Ways."

Bridgeport and the Gaye family's attorney, Richard Busch, did not return calls requesting comment. Thicke's law firm, King, Holmes, Paterno & Berliner, declined to comment.

In an interview with TMZ, Gaye's son, Marvin Gaye III said, "We’re not happy with the way that he went about doing business let alone suing us for something where he clearly got his inspiration from at the least."

During an interview with GQ magazine in May about his career and the making of "Blurred Lines," Thicke said, "one of my favorite songs of all time was Marvin Gaye's 'Got to Give It Up.' I was like, 'Damn, we should make something like that, something with that groove.' Then he started playing a little something and we literally wrote the song in about a half hour and recorded it. The whole thing was done in a couple hours."

Thicke's lawsuit said the "intent in producing 'Blurred Lines' was to evoke an era. In reality, the Gaye defendants are claiming ownership of an entire genre.... The reality is that the songs themselves are starkly different."

Are they?

We asked Ron Sadoff, a professor at New York University's Steinhardt School and Director of Programs in Scoring for Film and Multimedia and Songwriting at Steinhardt’s Department of Music and Performing Arts Professions, for his opinion.

"Thicke’s 'Blurred Lines' may have been inspired by Marvin Gaye’s 'Got to Give It Up,' but the songs’ respective ‘touch and feel,’ as well as their use of structural musical materials, are common to many popular songs," Sadoff said. "From a musicological perspective, the songs share even less similarities in terms of their use of structural materials such as melody and harmony. 'Blurred Lines' is composed squarely within the major mode, while 'Got To Give It Up' revolves around the blues scale. In this key area of melodic content, there doesn’t appear to be evidence that would suggest plagiarism on the part of Robin Thicke."

For a detailed legal analysis of the lawsuit -- and how it could change the landscape for music copyrights -- pick-up this week's issue of Billboard here: http://shop.billboard.com/products/billboard-back-issue-volume-125-issue-33.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 23rd, 2013, 11:19am »

That makes Thicke seem like even more of a douche. Interesting though, that a musicologist doesn't see much similarity in the songs. That doesn't bode well for the Gaye family in this dispute.
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on Aug 23rd, 2013, 11:19am, MPGfan wrote:
That makes Thicke seem like even more of a douche. Interesting though, that a musicologist doesn't see much similarity in the songs. That doesn't bode well for the Gaye family in this dispute.


Well he's not the judge so who knows? LOL

But yeah I think Thicke has done this whole thing all wrong. Sad the internet wasn't around in the '70s. I would've loved to see how musicologists viewed "My Sweet Lord" and "He's So Fine" lol
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 25th, 2013, 10:55am »

on Aug 19th, 2013, 12:04am, KATYAMUSIC wrote:
I am SO disgusted by thick. MARVIN GAYE is a MASTER! When that guy started his song I thought he was covering Marvin's song "GOT TO GIVE IT UP"!!! Marvin Gaye would have blow him out of the water live. It is a JOKE. I feel like thick's record company ripped Marvin off and changed enough bars to make it legal. I hope thick's record company does NOT win. He is backed by a powerful company! MARVIN IS KING! HIS MUSIC LIVES ON! His family has got to WIN for all the other musicians out there. If thick wins it will be an ATROCITY!


The song isn't worth being put in the same category as Gaye's... I'm sorry but Thicke has no talent, and the song is mediocre at its best. This is beyond using Marvin as an influence, it's outright stealing and Thicke+His Team of losers knows it. Good for the Gaye family for denying the 6 figure settlement. Marvin's music, talent, and legacy involved with GTGIU is worth more than that.
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on Aug 25th, 2013, 10:55am, SM247 wrote:
The song isn't worth being put in the same category as Gaye's... I'm sorry but Thicke has no talent, and the song is mediocre at its best. This is beyond using Marvin as an influence, it's outright stealing and Thicke+His Team of losers knows it. Good for the Gaye family for denying the 6 figure settlement. Marvin's music, talent, and legacy involved with GTGIU is worth more than that.


I still don't get how some people who claim to be "musicologists" can see a difference between the two. Definitely more than "inspiration". They stole, period.
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 25th, 2013, 11:08am »

Big slap to the face, and the fact that he tried to quickly cover his ass is so pathetic on Thicke's part.

Robin Thicke Offered Marvin Gaye's Family a Six-Figure Payout:
http://www.bet.com/news/music/2013/08/23/report-robin-thicke-offered-marvin-gaye-s-family-six-figure-payoff.html rolleyes
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on Aug 25th, 2013, 11:08am, SM247 wrote:
Big slap to the face, and the fact that he tried to quickly cover his ass is so pathetic on Thicke's part.

Robin Thicke Offered Marvin Gaye's Family a Six-Figure Payout:
http://www.bet.com/news/music/2013/08/23/report-robin-thicke-offered-marvin-gaye-s-family-six-figure-payoff.html rolleyes


That's why I was like "eff him". He would've had a better case if this wasn't uncovered. But now that it is, more people are starting to see him for the fraud he is.
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